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Posted 24 April 2005 - 06:17 AM
Anna, on Apr 23 2005, 01:18 AM, said: You just can't stop chumming the waters, can you, PH?
Okay, I'm biting. That would be Duchess Chlamydia, for those interested in proper spellings.
Sorry Auntie.....but who is CHLAMYDIA......sounds like it is part of a vagina
For fuck's sake ..what would we do with out Pantyholic...Pix of pantie babes should not be in this program...my cock is getting a little ragged and tattered...even the cat would not drag it in
TONSA FUN SHEER XXXX
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Posted 24 April 2005 - 06:21 AM
Pantyholic, on Apr 22 2005, 06:30 PM, said: Actually I am now considering Aunty Panty which is probably the worlds first so named Agony Aunt.
Of course this may lead to television appearances, and no doubt Prince Charles and the gorgeous Clamidia will want to meet you but you can always refuse and tell them your way to busy
or is it AUNTIE PANTIE ?
WHO GIVES A ROOTONTHEROOF...............SHEER
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 03:48 AM
sheerpanties, on Apr 24 2005, 03:12 AM, said: Sorry Auntie.....but who is CHLAMYDIA......sounds like it is part of a vagina
kinda' close, actually.
chlamydia
1. Biol. and Med. A virus-like bacterium of the genus Chlamydia, which comprises Gram-negative coccoids that reproduce as intracellular parasites in vertebrates and occasionally arthropods, causing numerous diseases (as trachoma, genital infections, and infantile pneumonia in man, and psittacosis and abortion in animals).
Orig. proposed (quot. 1945) as the name of a larger taxon than the genus.
[1945 H. Jones et al. in Jrnl. Infectious Dis. LXXVI. 55/2 Evidence has accumulated serving to separate this group from the true viruses and place it in a position between the bacteria and the viruses, analogous to the Rickettsiae, with the name Chlamydia.]
2. A chlamydial infection of the genitals.
Hence chla"mydial a., of, pertaining to, or caused by chlamydiæ.
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 05:41 AM
As these two are both resident in the same country as myself I feel comfortable in contradicting them. I contest that we don't care about our spelling. The problem is that most people over here had a teacher at school who couldn't spell, had no understanding of grammar (nor grammer) and have no concept of syntax (what exactly is syntax?).
It is true that, used in speech, many words seem to cause aversion and are bowderlized (e.g. "going to" becomes "gunna") but I have noticed, that except for those on an artificial high, those that can do take care with spelling.
As for "Aunty", how can there be any doubt that, in Australia, it is spelt with a "y": "Aunty ABC", "Aunty Jack"!
The Americans had a similar problem with spelling and resolved it with a speller in the 19th century, now they consistently misspell words like colour, grey and behaviour...but at least they are consistent and insistent. Maybe we should take note and do something similar.
The influence of American spelling has made its way into our political institutions - the Australian Labor Party! I would cringe if it would help. Maybe if the ALP changes the spelling back before the next election, people here will think they are voting for Blair and we can get rid of the arch-conservative who shares his name with a half-decent actor (wouldn't be much of an improvement, though).
Clearly, Michelle Jo and Pink can spell.
If it comes down to a vote, I exhort everyone to remember the adage: vote early and vote often.
Michelle_Jo, on Apr 22 2005, 06:40 PM, said: I agree with Pink ... Aunty (or Auntie) Anna Q&A Page ... also I just emailed Dorthy and she asked "Auntie Em" and Toto they both agree here in the true "Land of OZ" (Kansas) we spell it with the "ie" ... but I am still waiting on the Scarecrow to give his educated opinion ...
So I vote for Auntie Anna if we are taking a poll ... the true American way to decide ... vote, count, recount, recount, appeal the count, then Sue the counters, and finally ask the Court for a decision ... and then Bitch about the out come ... LOL
Your Sister from the Flat Land of OZ,
Michelle Jo
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 05:43 AM
As these two are both resident in the same country as myself I feel comfortable in contradicting them. I contest that we don't care about our spelling. The problem is that most people over here had a teacher at school who couldn't spell, had no understanding of grammar (nor grammer) and have no concept of syntax (what exactly is syntax?).
It is true that, used in speech, many words seem to cause aversion and are bowderlized (e.g. "going to" becomes "gunna") but I have noticed, that except for those on an artificial high, those that can do take care with spelling.
As for "Aunty", how can there be any doubt that, in Australia, it is spelt with a "y": "Aunty ABC", "Aunty Jack"!
The Americans had a similar problem with spelling and resolved it with a speller in the 19th century, now they consistently misspell words like colour, grey and behaviour...but at least they are consistent and insistent. Maybe we should take note and do something similar.
The influence of American spelling has made its way into our political institutions - the Australian Labor Party! I would cringe if it would help. Maybe if the ALP changes the spelling back before the next election, people here will think they are voting for Blair and we can get rid of the arch-conservative who shares his name with a half-decent actor (wouldn't be much of an improvement, though).
Clearly, Michelle Jo and Pink can spell.
If it comes down to a vote, I exhort everyone to remember the adage: vote early and vote often.
Michelle_Jo, on Apr 22 2005, 06:40 PM, said: I agree with Pink ... Aunty (or Auntie) Anna Q&A Page ... also I just emailed Dorthy and she asked "Auntie Em" and Toto they both agree here in the true "Land of OZ" (Kansas) we spell it with the "ie" ... but I am still waiting on the Scarecrow to give his educated opinion ...
So I vote for Auntie Anna if we are taking a poll ... the true American way to decide ... vote, count, recount, recount, appeal the count, then Sue the counters, and finally ask the Court for a decision ... and then Bitch about the out come ... LOL
Your Sister from the Flat Land of OZ,
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 07:10 AM
gamester_40, on May 7 2005, 01:38 AM, said: ... (Content removed to reduce bandwidth)
Clearly, Michelle Jo and Pink can spell.
If it comes down to a vote, I exhort everyone to remember the adage: vote early and vote often.
Thank You Gameter_40 for the nice commit about my spelling ability ...
but to be totally honest and truthful I am a terrible speller always have been .. it is the only class I ever got a "F" in while in school (all other classes I was a A or High B student) ... so when ever I enter anything into a forum or type a letter I always remember to use my spell-checker before posting ...
I searched the web for hours to find the one I use ... it is very reliable and above that Totally FREE ... and it works in any Windows based program I have tried so far ... they do offer Mac and Unix versions also along with non-English versions ... if any one would like to download it and use it just go to Google and search for "ispell"
Coming Clean in Kansas,
Michelle Jo
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 12:04 PM
gamester_40, on May 7 2005, 04:38 PM, said: As these two are both resident in the same country as myself I feel comfortable in contradicting them. I contest that we don't care about our spelling. The problem is that most people over here had a teacher at school who couldn't spell, had no understanding of grammar (nor grammer) and have no concept of syntax (what exactly is syntax?).
It is true that, used in speech, many words seem to cause aversion and are bowderlized (e.g. "going to" becomes "gunna") but I have noticed, that except for those on an artificial high, those that can do take care with spelling.
As for "Aunty", how can there be any doubt that, in Australia, it is spelt with a "y": "Aunty ABC", "Aunty Jack"!
The Americans had a similar problem with spelling and resolved it with a speller in the 19th century, now they consistently misspell words like colour, grey and behaviour...but at least they are consistent and insistent. Maybe we should take note and do something similar.
The influence of American spelling has made its way into our political institutions - the Australian Labor Party! I would cringe if it would help. Maybe if the ALP changes the spelling back before the next election, people here will think they are voting for Blair and we can get rid of the arch-conservative who shares his name with a half-decent actor (wouldn't be much of an improvement, though).
Clearly, Michelle Jo and Pink can spell.
If it comes down to a vote, I exhort everyone to remember the adage: vote early and vote often.
. i think that in reality, english is, and always has been a dynamic language, that is in a continuing evolution, begun fom its earliest development.
If one looks at how english was spelled and spoken, say in Elizabethan times, it is in some respects almost unrecognisable to what is legible to the english speaker of today. And the same could be said of people 500 years before that.
While the US has had an arguably dominant influence on the language in the 20th century, there have been other defining influences on the course of english throughout the ages.
starting with the Angles, i think, whereapon layer after layer has been added to the original base language. From what i know, basic words such as 'dad' originated with the earliest prototypes of 'english', but later through conquest etc, Romance languages, French in particular, were introduced (the romance languages themselves being derivative of latin).
english took a back seat to french for a few centuries after the Norman conquest, and in those early centuries of the millenium, probably looked under threat. Its interesting how things change over time, when now, partly because of the the colonisation of vast tracts of the world by England, and the dominance of the US last century, plus modern technology, english is now the pre-emininent language of the world - whereas french is almost marginalised in comparison
While we might see some of our tradionally spelled words change slightly ( ie- programme - program, labour - labor, aunty - auntie), its a natural progression, be that influence come from the US or wherever, that the way we use language and spell it changes gradually over time. In other words, there are not that many truly pure words in english - spelling has changed over time, new words from other languages introduced, words are adapted to contemporary needs etc etc. Is there really a solid template from which we can say conclusively whether aunty is spelled with an 'ie' or a 'y'?
i believe though that aussie english is strong and will never be superceded so long as aussies exist on this planet - christ, even we have started exporting our lingo thru some of our shitty television we sell to the world
Anyway, as i said, and as you say, nobody in Oz really gives a shit how a word is spelled
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Posted 07 May 2005 - 01:20 PM
gamester_40, on May 7 2005, 02:36 AM, said: As these two are both resident in the same country as myself I feel comfortable in contradicting them. I contest that we don't care about our spelling. The problem is that most people over here had a teacher at school who couldn't spell, had no understanding of grammar (nor grammer) and have no concept of syntax (what exactly is syntax?).
Like Amureekuns do? (Syntax, fwiw, is nothing much more than word order, and how it affects the sense of a given utterance.)
Quote As for "Aunty", how can there be any doubt that, in Australia, it is spelt with a "y": "Aunty ABC", "Aunty Jack"! It's a guess, of course, but I think the change in spelling in the U.S., from Aunty to Auntie, had a lot to do with the Civil War, which for USans remains the defining event in our history to date. "Aunty," at least in all the OED citations I read and thought about, and in all cases where the source was definitely American, was a diminutive and subtly devaluing term that applied to slave women who functioned as nannys or in similar capacities as body servants for the youngest members of the plantation household. The "Auntie" spelling crops up only after the end of the War, and then shifts to be applied both to aunts by blood and "honorary" Aunts as well. I wouldn't doubt but that this connection to the wretched institution of slavery, and its corrosive impact on the national identity and psyche has much to do with my own strident desire to choose the latter-day spelling.
Quote The Americans had a similar problem with spelling and resolved it with a speller in the 19th century, now they consistently misspell words like colour, grey and behaviour...but at least they are consistent and insistent. Maybe we should take note and do something similar.
You also fail to mention the corrosion in language that has been a direct result of changes in trademark rules and law.
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Posted 08 May 2005 - 10:33 AM
The last thing I want is to be taken seriously over some of these matters. I am amused that Michelle Jo says that she relies on a computer spell checker but I reckon she's just joshing. As for Pink, apart from being ADAMANT that I and other Aussies do care about spelling (and punctuation, for that matter), I believe that only those who can't would actually believe a statement that we don't! So I don't believe what Pink says.
I expect that all of you could see the teasing in my 'diatribe' against American spelling. But here's a little bit of hubris:
Only those guilty of the heinous crime of ingrained poor-spelling would try to justify it. However, whilst I abhor it, I ignore it because life is too short. Our political leaders (especially the one I moaned about yesterday) are aghast at the level of this skill in our schools and want to penalize those schools that perform poorly.
Everything Pink said about the development of the English language is roughly correct but that is hardly germane to the discussion. Slovenliness in spelling is not of the same relevance as vernacular speech - the speech came before the spelling.
Spelling was developed to create the written language so that concepts and knowledge could be passed on in the words people used. It made sense to standardize spelling from about the time of the printing press - local spelling understood by the privileged classes gave way to national spelling read and understood by the "Great Unwashed".
Teaching spelling fell from favour at the same time as the methods of teaching were modernized in the 60s and 70s and now we have many brilliant people running around who are basically illiterate and couldn't write to save themselves. The fact that people can't spell is a product of the 'enlightened' days of only a few decades ago.
Finally, what Anna says is correct but only insofar as the lack of interest in teaching spelling is so insidious that our children are not able to distinguish a phonetic trade mark name because no-one takes the time to help them.
Now I step down from my "soap box" and take comfort in the fact that, at least, I knew how to spell it.
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Posted 08 May 2005 - 01:26 PM
the point i made on apathy in spelling refers specifically to whether aussies could be bothered wasting their time discussing such puerile matters, ie, do we spell aunty with an 'ie' or a 'y'. It's not even a question of correct application of the language ; it's a question of who fucking cares!?
this should not be construed as meaning aussies do not care about spelling or punctuation, it just means we do not place importance on trivial or inconsequential matters.
i agree that 'slovenliness' in spelling is not the same as vernacular speech, but i think this is impertinent to my point - one way of spelling this particular word is not necessarily more correct than the other way. Either way is acceptable. And it is certainly not slovenly to choose one way over the other.
I mean, on what basis can this life and death matter be arbitrated? I tried to use my vague knowledge of history to demonstrate the variables of input into the language over time - that is, words (and vernacular speech) change over time, new words are introduced (from other languages, and from vernacular itself), contemporary factors of influence blah blah blah.
The language has changed so much, there is no real generic language base reference to provide a definitive answer to this most troubling of issues.
Where 'Aunty' might have been the acceptable norm over the last 100 years, now 'auntie' has crept in, and after all the old bastards die out, will become the new standard. But at the moment, in my opinion, both variants of the word may be used without accusations of slovenliness being bandied about.
As for education standards slipping, i would tend to agree. Children are no longer taught the three Rs(reading writing arithmetic). I reckon you can lay the blame at the feet of the ideological bastards running the education department over the years. These quasi- socialists decided that the kids in schools all needed to feel warm and fuzzy inside, everbody needed to be equal ,regardless of academic potential. So they dumbed down the curriculum to make everybody have equal self esteem - now the dumb kids wouldnt look stupid in class, and everybody passed at the end of the year. incentive to strive for excellence removed, mediocrity and false achievement takes its place
I remember all this shit was just coming in in my last year of high school (1991), and they changed the marking system from A B C D E F to either an S or an N - fucking ridiculous, it's like something out of east germany
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Posted 12 May 2005 - 12:57 PM
I almost didn't reply to this as I actually agree with most statements but I must reiterate, in clear language: I do care about written expression and, therefore, about spelling - at least my own.
My diatribe had nothing to do with alternative, legitimate spellings - this was just a tease as I know the preponderance of English speakers use American spellings (more than use English spellings!).
The sweeping 'who cares' and 'Australian's dont care' statements seemed to me to be a typical Australian put-down of elitism. (These sort of statements are of the same ilk as the dumbing down, lowest common denominator approach you derided at the end of your last post.) I just picked up on this to engage in a light-hearted banter.
I agree that we should ignore misspelling (and to that extent I don't care) and equally overlook pompous writing like my own. We should express ourselves in the way that comes naturally. With our panties on or off as the occasion demands.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 06:45 PM
Well Said Gamester, if i had to think to much about how i was going to reply in this form i think i would not cum out natural or the way i really felt.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 08:28 PM
I think I posted on the old site speelings and grammatiks have fuck all to do with this community, and should be the rule of thumb of all communities, other than maybe spelings and grmitics web sites.
Usually you find it's used as an attempted put down to try and win an argument, when infact it proves how arrogant, childish and insecure that person really is.
If you were to go through these pages and delete all posts including mine with speeling errors etc, it would reduce this site by a guesstimate of 99%, a forum is a way to communicate, and exchange thoughts agreed, but we must not forget the community may also be made up of people of different educational backgrounds, and of different nationalities, AND that typos do happen
A forum should not be used for installing fear into people and giving them complexes by making them aware we will be watching your spelling so use a spell checker.
Yes I know this topic is no where near to doing that, but I am posting this for those that may be unduly worried or concerned by reading it thats all, so please to those involved in this discussion, don't take any offence, and to those not involved
There is no spell checker on this web site nor will there ever be, so relax
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 02:34 AM
tee hee, you said rule of thumb, ::kicks feet and giggles:: ya know where that originated from dontcha? i used to be all into correct spelling and grammer, etc. but i just don't care anymore. it's so much more fun and liberating to not. 'sides, i'm from the south, and we talk and spell however we want. y'aintqueriryaboi? can anyone translate that?
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:48 AM
AnimeSpankingPanties, on May 15 2005, 04:29 AM, said: tee hee, you said rule of thumb, ::kicks feet and giggles:: ya know where that originated from dontcha?
y'aintqueriryaboi? can anyone translate that?
Well if I was to say it was a method used for punishing the wife with a stick, it wouldn't be proven. No one really knows, or can say for sure how or where it originated from, .
As for y'aintqueriryaboi I doubt even that in the south aint a true written sentence but here's a stab at it, I'm game for a larf
You are not homosexual, you are a cool guy in panties
I added the n'pntys
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 12:29 PM
Pantyholic, on May 14 2005, 05:23 PM, said: There is no spell checker on this web site nor will there ever be, so relax
I heartily agree with your sentiments, PM. I find myself wishing I'd never started this thread.
In particular, because my original point was never one of grammar, nor of "correct" spelling. The sources are clear that either spelling is correct, for whatever that's worth. I could give fuck-all about formal grammar or spelling.
I wished only to point out a particular racist association that exists (probably limited to the US of A) with the word (and spelling) "Aunty."
That I drew out at excruciating length my explanation and description of the linguistic background for those associations has doubtless contributed to whatever confusion and dissension this line of discussion may have caused since I myself dropped the topic a week or more ago.
It's painfully apparent to me, in any case, that I failed to make my point clearly. You have my sincerest apologies.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 01:51 PM
Anna, on May 15 2005, 02:24 PM, said: I heartily agree with your sentiments, PM. I find myself wishing I'd never started this thread.
You have my sincerest apologies.
no no no,  I have enjoyed following this thread Anna, I was just a wee bit worried that vistors who can read this topic before even becoming a member might get the impression we are sensitive to spellings etc.
Also the topic has gone off track to what you originaly posted or rather started, thats why I jumped in if you like.
So no appology accepted, or expected, so don't for christs sake let it worry you
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 08:45 PM
Pantyholic, on May 15 2005, 10:46 AM, said: So no appology accepted, or expected, so don't for christs sake let it worry you
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:14 PM
Heyyyyyy Panty Master your the greatest
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 03:42 AM
i have a problem with talking extremely fast. y'ainqueriryaboi? when said slower is "you aren't queer are ya boi?" my older brother says that all the time to mess with me. it's now an inside joke among my friends and i. as for your translation, i rilly like it. i've always felt that guys who wear panties aren't even close to being homosexual for the most part. the way i see it, we are ultra-straight. just tink about it. many of us like panties so much becuase they remind us of women. we like talking to each other and looking at each other's pics because it's rilly nice to interact with others who relate and won't judge but are understanding. wow, that's a lot of philosophy in one spurt. strange, because i'm known for never making sense in any of my thoughts, actions, or words.
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